- Mythopoesis 1 - same life story, different conclusions
- I am agentic as fuck (as was my dad)
- I like this framing - âtried and crossed outâ â https://x.com/christineist/status/1983306506109104452

I picked my undergrad degree for pragmatic reasons and didnât come from an environment where what degree to take was a talked about thing (I totally lone-wolfed it)
I wanted to do good in the world and had no role models and Effective Altruism seemed like the perfect thing
I became very agentic near the end of my time at university
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Oh but also even before
- Taught myself the guitar
- Maybe more stuffâŠ
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Getting into EA and having calls with EAs
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Agentic at Particle Tech
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Agentic re: New Harvest conferences, no precedent for this kind of shit in my family! And history
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Agentic re: doing Masterâs
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Agentic re: teaching myself to code
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Agentic re: learning how to learn, making website about it, doing free coaching
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Agentic re:
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Cellular Agriculture UK, LinkedIn etc
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I was very agentic at Alvea (e.g., feedback from Ethan)
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I was very proactive about getting involved in the cellular agriculture space
- Note, this is missing in my âerasâ thing! Going to New Harvest conferences etc, first really agentic thing I ever did, and like dude, fucking shout out to me. Flying off to New York as probably a teenager (?) or 20 year old in order to volunteer at conferences to network. Like, thatâs baller as shit are you kidding me
Realising how poorly educated I was
- Asking my friend Dan about left vs right wing as a teenager and really not getting it
- First job out of undergrad, reading Andrew Marr book on English history of last ~100 years
- Reading 52 non-fiction books in 52 weeks during Masters
- Subscribing to the Economist (and realising how out of the loop I was!)
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I went to Asia after the breakup and was socially anxious and isolated
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I spent 1.5 years âtravellingâ but spent most of my time being introverted and being alone and didnât do it âthe right wayâ
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I have had a much less impressive career than the big EAs etc
- A life of big gambles without wise elders to talk to
- A life of high agency + idk cPTSD/being an absolute pioneer in my family (lol) (idk)
To fold in
Agency â consensus-ism as another example, sticking with it, reading the recommended stuff, taking it seriously
âIâve always known my preferences, and now Iâm totally safe to live by themâ
- By default, I construct the story of my life as a long list of failures/tragedies
- (And to be clear, it does make sense, because a lot of this sit is unfortunate and sad)
I always knew what I did and didnât want to do as a kid
- Default story: âI was a passive kidâ, because I was shipped around from places I didnât want to be (high conflict house, now have to go to dads at weekend, have to go to pub with him and sister, have to go on holiday with mum and sister despite high conflict, etc)
- And yes, I did have to do those things, I didnât have a choice. I didnât have agency, I was a child/teenager. But I did have agency in how I acted, and I knew that I didnât want to do those things, so I was often disagreeable, signalled that we were doing things that I didnât want to do, found my own space, found video games, etc
- E.g., weâd go to my mumâs friendâs house every few months for a holiday, which I wouldnât want to do, because I didnât like spending time with my mum and sister, as they were so toxic. So Iâd take my playstation and set up in a room and spend the time mostly on my own
- And when I was ~19, I had the false insight of âoh, it was video games fault, if only I hadnât played so many video games, I wouldnât be so awkwardâ. But no, dude, the video games were my solution to the problem of being in unpleasant environments. Conflict-ridden house, holidays with the conflict-ridden people, video games (and Harry Potter) were safe havens.
I knew my preferences as a teenager too
- I knew that being in a band felt bad (I was just too conditioned to be afraid of saying ânoâ to stop)
- etc
I love saying ânoâ to things I donât want to do
- Leaving things early, or saying no to things, have been some of the best moments of my life
It has taken a lot of unlearning to feel safe saying ânoâ and now I can
- Took a lot of unlearning to feel safe to say ânoâ
- Being forced to go along with things I didnât want to do for my entire childhood/teenage years (because the entire home family system was something I didnât want to engage with), and being pressured to e.g. spend 1:1 time with my mum because she was lonely, meant that when I entered putative adulthood, I found it very hard to say ânoâ to things, to choose my own preferences - it felt selfish and wrong.
- ChatGPT â âYesâgrowing up having to regulate a parentâs loneliness and go along with a family system you didnât choose is classic codependent conditioning, where enmeshment and parentification blur boundaries and train you to prioritize othersâ needs over your own so that saying ânoâ feels selfish.â
I love saying ânoâ to things
- Saying ânoâ to things:
- Iâve said outright nos to 4 job opportunities recently. Iâve been invited to private hiring rounds because I did very well on some job applications in the EA scene, but I donât want to work at EA orgs, so yeah, thank you for the opportunity and it still feels kinda mad to say no but also hell yeah feels so good
- Insane aliveness in my body when I said no to these things
- Not getting on train to see uni âfriendsâ
- Leaving JessCamp early
- Leaving Asia
- And, as hard as it was, my giant breakup too
- And, more of a grounded feeling of âyes, I can do this, this is normal for me nowâ, re:
- Hippy retreat
- Saying no to jobs
- Not doing a bunch of stuff at the EA hotel
Genuinely preferring spending time alone
- cPTSD is hard to get over, people donât feel safe, so of course it felt much better to spend time alone. Unsafe and uncomfortable around people â totally safe and comfortable alone. Makes complete sense. So yeah, masters, undergrad, etc. Remember how it felt to be around people. Remember how it felt to be alone. Coherence therapy innit, this was totally coherent.
- And Albania, not just âwah I was alone the whole month like an idiotâ â think what I was just leaving behind! Think how great it felt to no longer be collaborating with simmo, to no longer be in insane humidity, etc. It was glorious to be so alone, seriously! I loved it! I had 0 desire to talk to people! Seeing Michael Ashcroft was nice but it was like, nice, great one-off meal, this didnât make me think that Iâve been super lonely without realising it
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Iâve never been impressed by âshallowâ stuff because my house was on fire
Re: like, being âhighly non-sensitiveâ
I like winter and dislike summer and donât like views because itâs like mum forcing me to go out with themÂ
Safe in my room, ultimately, I think is the thing. I am of course highly sensitive
Iâm not impressed by shallow things like football and views and shit because thereâs a deeply sad part, my house is on fire, suddenly by family was ruined inexplicably and we just carried on
(However I did find music and stuff very important. Wonder if thereâs a way in which this fits. E.g., Harry Potter let me forget about my burning house. Music let me process emotions, also escape the burning house, also to see people self-express, always ways to feel cool and good (White Stripes, Strokes, etc))
ViewsÂ
Other countriesÂ
CitiesÂ
Meditation
A sense of âwho caresâÂ
Vs findinf wirting and music very profound - Kendrick and DFWÂ
With a girlfriend I care about travellling more fwiw
Video games etc helped me get through my childhood
There is an underclass of people who need escapism to get through their childhood
The true underclass (e.g. the very working class people who my sister was born into) use alcohol and weed etc
My underclass use video games
The middle class get to like, have a nice family, so thereâs nothing to escape from
Making some kind of diagram b/c thereâs no satisfying stratification here that Iâm aware of. Working class/middle class/upper class is far too coarse
1. My interests werenât legible to my parents but were still real
- My interests werenât legible to either parent
- But they were still valid!
- Not only did I sadly not like football/classic rock/cars, but also I liked introverted stuff that is kind of illegible (but then again, I could argue that football/classic rock/cars are totally illegible to me)
- Ultimately, by some luck of the draw which probably happens a lot, I was very different from both parent. An intense introvert cherisher, almost autistic in how obsessed I would get with things, things that were illegible to them, and they didnât seem to have the willingness to try to engage
What I liked
- Harry Potter. I was insanely obsessed with Harry Potter, I read it on repeat, non-stop, for years. Neither parent ever read it! This seems mad to me - how could you not want to see what the fuss was about, and to see if you could bond over it!
- Huge disconnect â football dad, bookish son (reading a kids book series). Mum who doesnât read
- Scott Pilgrim. I got really into this as a teenager, and itâs very teenager-y
- Video games â this is what gave me sanctuary in my high conflict home, and Iâm very grateful to them.
- Writing â I discovered a real aptitude for writing
Itâs a shame that my parents didnât engage with my interests
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Neither parent read Harry Potter; we could have read it together, watched the films!
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Me and my dad could have played video games together, but alas, he wasnât interested, or at least, the thought didnât seem to cross his mind. I remember him having a go on my PS1 when he still lived with us and just not getting it. I think he hated being bad at things
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Neither parent read or encouraged my writing from what I can remember
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âI donât have much to offer/I donât have any interestsâ
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This is downstream of my mum too, I think� Because I spent more time with her, and she never made me feel boring, she made me feel illegible
7. My interests are valid despite my parents not understanding them
What I have become
- Iâm now 29, and the obsession with Harry Potter has of course subsided, but it morphed into other things over time, like e.g. an obsession with David Foster Wallace. Obsession with art (you may say HP isnât art, but you know) is a theme in my life. Harry Potter, the Metal Gear Solid series of video games (lol), Scott Pilgrim, then David Foster Wallace, Kendrick Lamar, Conan OâBrien, lesser obsessions (more like strong admirations) for e.g. Fiona Apple and DâAngelo. Albums that mean so much to me, albums that I cherish. Something that I havenât found a clean label for yet, but something around being deeply passionate about⊠I donât know what, individual artists who share themselves earnestly, or something, I donât know. I donât know what âtype of guyâ this makes me, this doesnât seem to be covered by the enneagram. âDeeply passionate about art, writing, music, rather than external things like⊠nature, holidays, sports, etcâ.
- Enneagram 3w4 â ==3 core = build/achieve; 4 wing = depth, artistry, originality; result = âthe producer/creator who wants the work to be both excellent and true.â==
- I think Iâm very introverted, very like, focused on the internal world, like, the external world of football and cars makes no sense to me. So, thereâs a fundamental clash, and itâs difficult for me to share this stuff